wat have ppl beat in a gen2 lib tt converted

[granca69]

i have a gen 2 1998 bilstein edition am in da process on converting it or deciding at least anyone who has already done it wat have u beaten???

[fastrack]

well i've beaten alot of cars but what exactly is under the hood of these cars i'm not sure but here's the list off the top of my head

V8 Common dores TT Soarer

V6 Common dores Honda Prelude

sports magna Turbo Suzukiswift

FTO Honda Civic's

various skylines NA liberty's of all saughts

silvia's

and My Dad's RS (but it's not running right :P)

you will find ppl aren't incredibly familiar with the genII TT's so you will get ALOT of drags, as opposed to things like skylines and ss commodores where ppl know what power they have and decide only to drag if they can beat them

[granca69]

funny **** bro, wats under ya hood, i need too beat a 5ltr vt comodore and im looking at converting to tt

[TassieTT]

funny **** bro, wats under ya hood, i need too beat a 5ltr vt comodore and im looking at converting to tt


If it's a straight line drag then just go single - simple

the TT set up is not designed for big power but rather a broader power delivery.

Nice Sti motor on ebay at the moment sans turbo.

[BloMeB4]

In regards to the Beating a 5litre CommoWhore!.....
a while back with 112kw atw i took on a dude with a SS VN on one side and a VN Calais 5Ltre on the other.

They thought seeing a wagon that they'll kill me!

Revved it up to 3000RPM with 1 Bar boost ........

killed them by 3 car lenths till 100km's

As long as you got 130kw atw+ with All Wheel Drive, Rear wheel drives cant touch u! Unless the dude was running 10 Sec 1/4's.

i was handed my ass in a sandwhich while he was eating a Cheeseburger........but then again i was only running 76kw atw with only primary turbo!

[granca69]

would i beat him though with a standard tt, wat sorta power they got when da conversion is done atw. i like the tt cause of the low down power this mate of mine juz keeps callin my car a bitch car and his vt 5.0ltr is auto so i need too show him that the legacys live on, or go for a wrx motor?

[RoBbO]

funny **** bro, wats under ya hood, i need too beat a 5ltr vt comodore and im looking at converting to tt

I don't think you "NEED" to beat anyone.....

[Adrian]

~115kw ATW stock for a GT

GT-B is likely ~125-130 ATW stock?

[Deaks]

You will more than likely get to the other end of the so called drag strip before he does, but you will need to be very harsh of the driveline to do it. Been there done it. One blown gearbox to prove it.

If you want a drag monster (as i do) then you cant beat the single turbo, but if you just wanna put a 5ltr in its place, then im sure a tt with an exhust and mild boost upgrade will do the trick. You might wanna invest in a oil cooler for the tranny. Then maybe a spare tranny.....

[RSTurbo]

I don't think you "NEED" to beat anyone.....

well said!

[fastrack]

"don't need to" my ass, why else do you turn your NA into a TT monster!

my car is pretty much standard cept for the CAI and a K&N filter and a gearbox cooler (which is a must if your a leadfoot)

the 5ltr common dore was probably the closest to beating me untill i hit second at about 4500rpm then bye bye dunnydore and helloooo speeding fine!

[RSTurbo]

you dont turn a "NA into a TT monster" to beat commodores. what have you got to proove to them?
you do it so u can enjoy having a nice car with a bit of stick.

[fastrack]

i didn't mean to specificly beat commondores, that just happens to be the car that his mate owns. But why would you want a bit of stick if you don't want to drag, speed, overtake and generally do unnecessary things :)

[goq11k]

I think he just likes the hole in the bonnet concept, hehehe

nah seriously,
depends on money you want to spend (obviously),
TT, two small turbos, probably cost more to set-up and get right,
single turbo is far greater horsepower

once again how much dosh do you really want to spend on a 10 year old car (I ask myslef this all the time)

once you get the turbo, you want the best turbo, next its the ECU, bigger injectors, fuel pump, next its the front mount, then the whatever

in my view as i want to go down the GEN3 route some day, get it right the first time.

[granca69]

thanx fastrack atleast sum1 can undastand me there is no need like u said to convert if u dont have those intensions ill will prob juz go the wrx motor and bye bye commodore

[BloMeB4]

yeah dude! better do the single turbo!

Honestly, i was asking the same questions a year ago!

In my opinion, IF u already have a TT set-up in the Subby, go for it! but as all wise ones say.....RE: Deaksy n Dr. Mat.....be warned, as the cost involved are scary!!! Also dont be afraid to give blocks of $100 dollar bills to your trusted mechanic before you even know what your getting as at the end of the day.....not many shops specialise in the TT's so therefore its all Research n development!

For me, it was personal satisfaction to get my TT to the point of being an absolute rocket ship in the 'down low n at the lights' department.....But it costed an arm n a leg! im talking $17g's up wards. The Custom Front mount costed $3,500 alone at mates rate.....n that was without it for 2 months! Dont ask about the rebuilt either...... i'd rather get a kick in the goolies then pay for a rebuild again!

The time i was without the car was roughly under 22 months all up with it being in the workshops......and thats actually owning it for 5 years!

Thinking about it now, u really have to be a bit from the left field to undergo a full on customisation of a TT! its also cool to know that u got twins that blo!


If i had a shell that needed n engine, i'd definetly go single 2.5litre n custom turb the thing! Not only will u get down low grunt....but also n engine that'll be insane in the high end! It might be even cheaper!

But if budgets your go and that ur willing to shop around, do the single! i recon for $6g's you will get a 200kw atw rocket!

Just my two cents!

But good luck dude!! In the end you cant loose!

You got an AWD Monsta in ur pocket that you've got in ur hands!!!!!

No gay pun intended either

[granca69]

thanx 4 all your imput i guess i will prob juz get a 97-99 wrx half cut and see how we go the tt just doesnt seem right too me, i had an r32 gtst b4 my lib and it was great fun im sorta over the whole sideways thing and when i got my lib evan for a 2.5 it is great fun taking coners hard, getting s bends on da road that you can take at 100 k,s and hour so many advantages, u guys have all been a good help cause all criticisim is good

[Billsy]

interesting discussion, you dont "need" to beat anything, but its agood feeling when you put smartasses back in their place


you will find ppl aren't incredibly familiar with the genII TT's so you will get ALOT of drags, as opposed to things like skylines and ss commodores where ppl know what power they have and decide only to drag if they can beat them
yeah. not in adelade, ive had to instigate almost every run ive been in so far

if i was doing a conversion, engine choice would be simple, if its auto then its a single and a shift kit
if its manual, id b deciding if its going to be used for alot of drag, if not then the driveability of the tt for everyday driving outweighs the gutless bottom end of a high power single.

thats my opinion, good luck

[Deaks]

Gutless bottom end? Hahaha hehehe um ok then.

Yeah, you arent going to get boost at 2000rpm with a single as you will with a tt, but if your really worried about bottom end pulling power, go buy a strong 6cyl NA car.

Having had a tt with 154kws atws, i can say that a little bit of boost down low doesnt make up for the lack in the midrange compared to a single.

What ive beaten? My head against a brick wall? Go tt and you'll know the feeling.....

[Billsy]

What ive beaten? My head against a brick wall? Go tt and you'll know the feeling.....
LOL, no brick walls here.

with my gutless bottom end (idle > where boost comes on) comment, i was refering more to a manual, an auto (especially one with a stally) is completely different.

[granca69]

billsy i agree with you i am not converting my car to beat sum1 i am converting it cause i like to have power on demand when it is needed, if i wanna overtake, i want it there, if im gonna drag the odd guy, i want it there however i also want to put this smartass back in his place, he believes that if you want a performace car is has too be 5 litres or above and i bed too differ and although i luv my libbie i want more go and when its done beating the 5 litre is sumfing i want to do for fun not a necesity

[fastrack]

i know the feeling deaks TT's sure as hell aren'y worth the trouble they cause (my car is currently in for it's fifth gearbox atm) but once you've got one you love em to death :P