Green wagon moves on.

[Al]

I parted ways with my old green wagon today.
It's been sort of for sale for a while(I'm not big on marketing) and a forum member teed up the sale to his cousin in Sydney(Thanks Leon).

Here's the old girl in her glory days. Served me well over the years, never missed a beat and went better than most expected.

http://i65.photobucket.com/albums/h219/AL_RS/Greenwagon005.jpg

Anyhoo, while I know it will serve the new owner well it is time for me to find another Liberty.

I have my eye on a 97/8 GX wagon. Has the good interior and parallel roof rails like the GT's.
I already have a GTB engine and 4.44 box in the shed for it and for the ancillaries I was thinking V3 STi ecu and wiring, VF36 or 37 twin scroll turbo side mounted on either custom factory manifold or more likely X force type headers with modified up pipes. Then the usual FMIC and custom exhaust system.

Add brakes, suspension and a few styling mods(RX bar and fogs, GTB tailgate spoiler, colour coded side strips and GT skirts) and we should have a quick, streetable and somewhat unique wagon to add to the ever increasing gen 2 turbo stable.

Looking forward to it.

[B-rad]

you go AL, your new car sounds alot like mine! less the vf twin scroll and a few other MINOR bits lol. will be a beauty, do post pics of its progress, now i remebe you putting up pics of a mad vk? with 2jz and twin vf10's is this project finished? id love to see some photos/video's of its massive ritual burnouts. lol

[smoov]

try to find one with the twin sunroofs. they rawk!!

i've seen a couple of ski-fx wagons with them...

[Datman]

Nice work ;)

[needaRSS]

What engine did your old green wagon have in it Al?

[Deaks]

Hey if ya really want twin roofs, my shell has them in it, ill send you the roof, hmmm wonder how much that would cost?

[Az]

woohoo!
long live the joker sticker!

[Al]

The old girl has a WRX TDO5 engine with 3000 stall WRX VTD auto.

Got any good bits left over from the GT Deaks? Body bits.

Sunroofs are the devils work. They are like breast enlargements, look hawt but suck when they leak with age.

Will make an offer on the wags tomoz. Bidding on some headers on ebay and have the turbo lined up already. Just need to decide between tightass GT twin scroll turbo and more expensive WRX version.

[Marty]

sounds great al.... already starting to think about getting my hands on an STI ecu and v34...

not cause i don't like the twins... just don't feel like replacing two turbos and chasing niggling problems anymore... plus i think my primary up pipe is rat ****..

get a blue one!!!

[favro]

get a blue one!!!

no, you know you want a silver one!

[Marty]

Silver
http://img118.imageshack.us/img118/1125/sig7ss.jpg

White
http://members.iinet.net.au/~martinm/cars/libsideonnew.jpg

Green
http://images.carsales.com.au/private/1437241.jpg

Red
http://members.iinet.net.au/~martinm/cars/gtbred.jpg

Blue
http://members.iinet.net.au/~martinm/cars/gtb/gtbqldpic.jpg

[favro]

The silver one is unfairly a smaller size :)

damn that burgundy looks nice, and it would fit, considering he is a qld'er!

[Marty]

come on! all 5 coloured gen 2 wagons in one thread was a pretty good effort!!

[SubbyRS]

damn that burgundy looks nice, and it would fit, considering he is a qld'er!
That's MAROON mate! burgundy is a place in France :wink: :D

and def Blue ftw...

[Al]

The target vehicle is green. Damn that Maroon car is Hawt. I must track down a GTB bodykit.

[westwood]

You'll need propper Twin Scroll headers for the Twin scroll turbos.

Means you'll need the sump & pickup too.

Go for the VF36 or 37. The GT one is just too small ;)

[Al]

The x force headers are laid out the same as factory twinscroll headers(paired cylinders front and rear). They are cheaper, easier to get and don't require a sump change. I have to modify the up pipes anyway to allow straight entry which is not a problem with the x force headers.

http://i13.ebayimg.com/05/i/08/cb/1c/a4_1_b.JPG

I hear you on the GT turbo though. VF37 FTW. $300 dearer than a GT.

[dsh04]

what do vf37's sell for these days anyway?

[nick e[v]ans]

speaking of Gen 2's... just saw a sexy white GTB wagon when i was getting some subway. Asian bloke driving musta thought i was a weirdo hanging out the window to have a perve. Very very nice. Like you said Al (i think) Gen 2's are teh new hotness.

[Deaks]

I have a Ver3 STi ECU siiting here if you get all single minded Smidge. Itll work great on your wags, as you dont have a damn auto to work like mine did.

[Tank Subie Wagon]

That photo of ur wags Al was a while ago, no big shed at all, if you want another joker i can probly get my hands on one for your new wags.

sounds like your new one will be a bit of a monster.

[DJB]

come on! all 5 coloured gen 2 wagons in one thread was a pretty good effort!!

Nice work smidge, but we all know that the white one was a GX with GGT skirts plus front and rear bar, actually quite like the one that you used to own.

I've seen that blue one before, kinda looked into buying it myself a while back. How come your wags isn't there instead as it's the blue mica version

[Al]

Just sealed the deal for the green gen 2. Picking it up Thursday.
Time to go shopping for parts. :D

[Az]

hey!

I have a green gen 2!

I must have missed something...
Did you but stints car?

[Al]

Nah, same colour but without the bodykit, multiple turbos and durry neutralizer taking up the top half of the back of the car.

[csm101]

Saw it today in Leons hands knew it was your old one Al "Long live the Joker"

[Marty]

Nice work smidge,
I've seen that blue one before, kinda looked into buying it myself a while back.

that IS my car... thats the pic the owner is QLD posted up when he was selling it, i bought it from the second owner since then...

[Al]

Took delivey of one of the smelliest Liberty's ever today. Damn Hippies.

Got the headers off ebay and some WRX 17's from here.
Suspension and ecu to come.

Gerni gets a workout tomoz.

[Marty]

damn it'd be nice to have a shed like that! and an assistant with tiny hands to get into those spots you can't yourself! ;)

go the gen 2 buildups!

[Az]

I have some product for you Al. Fixes smells good. for real.

[Al]

Get those industrial gernis out Az, this mofo has hippy stench!!!!!!!!!!!!!111111111111111one2eleven.

[Tank Subie Wagon]

lol has it got wacky weed smell hahahaha.

[Jarrod]

so the difference between the 36 and 37 is that one is BB the other not yeah? which is which?

[Edit] I just looked it up. 36 roller, 37 not vf42 ftw?

[Al]

Stints and I ripped the interior out today for odour neutralising.
I also whacked my plates on it so people don't think I am a hippy permaculture farmer.

Bought a Power FC and Tein coilovers for it today also.
The PFC will make it easy for me to run the EJ20R with 440's on a std WRX loom which I have.

The Teins will probably bring complaints from my wife but I can live with that.

[Az]

not probably if they're anything like my apexi's

[B-rad]

how low is it gonna be AL

what power you going for?

[stints]

I just drove the wagon home from Al's with absolutely no interior in the car except a Gen 3 outback drivers seat, let me tell you its like driving a 44 gallon drum with an engine inside it!!!! I still can't hear anything. LOL :P
Cheers Miles:D

[B-rad]

haha nice. i like your desription, 44 gallon drum lol

[Al]

Stints can't handle the powah of teh 2.2 auto, that's why his ears are ringing.

[SymbioteK]

I bet Al had one of theses as a kid

http://i.walmart.com/i/p/00/02/89/14/98/0002891498153_500X500.jpg

[Datman]

good times

[Al]

Oh Noes!!!!111 The new green machine got hammered by the massif hail storm we had on wednesday. Will be going through insurance and hopefully it will not be written off because I don't want to go through looking for another car.

Got headers yesterday, much good.

[yods]

Bummer. That made the news down here, thought of you QLDers..those hailstones looked pretty massive.

[favro]

Oh Jesus I hope my car was in the shed!!!!

[Al]

Yes, of course it is. :) The car got hammered in Noosa also, it didn't really hail at my place, there were just massif gum trees falling over instead.

[SubbyRS]

']Yes, of course it is. :) The car got hammered in Noosa also, it didn't really hail at my place, there were just massif gum trees falling over instead.
the one and only time I'm glad we DIDN'T move up your way Al.......we were totally underwhelmed at our place, no hail at all.....

[Jarrod]

word is thta Brissy got very little, the coasts copped it all. Every time I've been caught in rain on the sunny coast it's hammered down.

[Az]

picsofballpeenhammerdamage?

Imeanhaildamage?

[SymbioteK]

']Oh Noes!!!!111 The new green machine got hammered by the massif hail storm we had on wednesday. Will be going through insurance and hopefully it will not be written off because I don't want to go through looking for another car.

know how it is had the galant writen off from hail damage
they basicly gave us the option
we can spend 3-4 month re skining your car

or you can get a new one

[Al]

The new green car is getting fixored. It's insured for more than most peeps think there old RS is worth so no off writing for it.

So I have the titanium WRX 17's and I lowered it this afternoon after working on Favro's car most of the day.
I bought some Teins for it but decided they would be too hard for my old bones so sold them to scooby85(Ben) for his V3 Gen 2 Conversion that will be on the bench shortly.
So I whacked a set of kings sedan rears and some no name jap front low springs with WRX struts of some description into it this arvo. Turned out nicely I think. Should look good after the dedent and respray.

Before

http://i65.photobucket.com/albums/h219/AL_RS/Fezzawagon/Fezzawagon001.jpg


After

http://i65.photobucket.com/albums/h219/AL_RS/Fezzawagon/Fezzawagon002.jpg


I also have the ebay tuned extractors and VF37 twin scroll turbo at hand. Should live happily with the GTB engine and box and PFC.

http://i65.photobucket.com/albums/h219/AL_RS/Fezzawagon/Fezzawagon004.jpg

http://i65.photobucket.com/albums/h219/AL_RS/Fezzawagon/Fezzawagon003.jpg

VF27 is VF30 + P25 twin scroll housing.

Interestingly, we compared a JDM Gt turbo to the VF27 and not only was it massif comparibly, it isn't even the same inlet or dump pattern. There is a huge difference in the up pipe(s) diameter and well as the wastegate(s in VF37) and dump flange. The GT turbos were mitsubishi TDO4HGL's not IHI turbos. Is that what the Aus GT have fitted? Oversteer?

[Jarrod]

Al for educational purposes can you post a pic of the up pipe connection of the turbo, haven't seen a twin scroll housing yet.

[Al]

Heidi looked at me with curiousity/contempt when I went out to the shed at 9.30pm to take photos of a turbo.

Anyhoo -

http://i65.photobucket.com/albums/h219/AL_RS/Fezzawagon/Fezzawagon005.jpg

http://i65.photobucket.com/albums/h219/AL_RS/Fezzawagon/Fezzawagon006-1.jpg

[Az]

']Heidi looked at me with curiousity/contempt when I went out to the shed at 9.30pm to take photos of a turbo.

Anyhoo -


its a sickness... tell her the only cure is XXXX

[Jarrod]

its a sickness... tell her the only cure is XXXX

Or Tooheys new.....

Thanks Al. I get looks like that from Em all the time. Looks like it has roughly twice the entry size of my td05. Yet it probly still will spool up faster.

Oh and Al, the gasket on the up pipe shat itself (became a two piece gasket with one left on the road in coolum), thus the performance. Changed gasket tis alll good now.

Pronounces the boxer rumble quite nicely though.

[Marty]

i get weird looks from the mrs when she goes through the photo library and there's more pics of cars and various subaru bits than there are of people....

anywho... rims and lowering transforms that car! goes from granny to shmicko in 36mins

[legman]

its in yer blood Al, theres no hope for ya !

kombi idea on the backburner for now?

[Al]

Kombi dual cab is too hard to find and not practical for me atm(not good for transporting front cuts). Still want to do it though.

[Al]

The wagon has been painted now and just needs the screens etc refitted. I got sideskirts, a GTB tailgate spoiler, RX front bar, colour coding and a gold pearl in the paint as well as straightening the whole car. Hasn't been buffed yet, it's dusty and the pic is crap but you get the idea.

http://i65.photobucket.com/albums/h219/AL_RS/Fezzawagon/paint002.jpg

[TOMO]

Looks very nice Al it's amazing what some wheels and a paint job will do for a car.!!
Will this be auto.??

[Al]

Manual. GTB EJ20R, TY752VBCAA 4.44 box, VF37, headers, PFC, 550's(?), Z32 meter, the usual stainless bits that I make and working on GTR callipers on 325mm rotors.

[Jarrod]

'] working on GTR callipers on 325mm rotors.

Surely the wrx 17s won't clear them will they?

[TOMO]

Sweet that will be mint well done a perfect car for the family.lol

[NRGIZE]

looking very nice al looks like everything going well :tu so when u rekon it will be hitting the streets/drag strip chopping alot of people? :D

[Al]

Surely the wrx 17s won't clear them will they?

Nothing ventured...


Tomo - not really the family car, got the gen 3 Outback for that. It will be used for Angus transport daily though. Even with the old auto 2.2 it is still quicker than the Outback.

Hoping to do a bit to it over Xmas after we have finished our customer cars. I pretty well have all the bits necessary to do the job now.

[TOMO]

Man I would love a car like this It would be sweet for my work car.haha
I hope down the track it comes up for sale one day iam in love.haha

[Marty]

love the colour! z32 meter bigger than a v3 sti? or you running it for the PFC?

[Al]

I got the whole lot off a V2 STi from yapan. The Z32 meter is the same diameter as a std RS meter but has better resolution than any other meter(except maybe infiniti or soemthing rare like that). I don't know why the V3/GTB meters are so big because they don't offer better resolution than a Z32.

[Marty]

same resolution but more actual flow through the larger diametre pipe? i knew the z32's were popular but didn't know they were the ducks nuts...

[Al]

Got the car back last night, still have to refit the interior yet.
Pics taken at dusk so don't show the gold pearl. It looks cool in the sun though.

http://i65.photobucket.com/albums/h219/AL_RS/Fezzawagon/fezzawagon007.jpg

http://i65.photobucket.com/albums/h219/AL_RS/Fezzawagon/fezzawagon008.jpg

[Al]

Surely the wrx 17s won't clear them will they?


http://i65.photobucket.com/albums/h219/AL_RS/Fezzawagon/fezzawagon010.jpg

http://i65.photobucket.com/albums/h219/AL_RS/Fezzawagon/fezzawagon012.jpg

They make WRX brakes look like coins.

[Jarrod]

SIZEABLE

[B-rad]

AL what rotors are you using for these?????? WOWNESS

[Al]

Let's just say Az's car is severely underbraked ATM. :D

[Rallyeee]

So they suit the same disc as the sti Brembos? What brand are the GTR calipers?

You should make a template of those brackets you've made for the calipers and mass produce them, well enough for a few of us club members anyway :wink:

Do you know what other Subaru wheels they fit under?

[Al]

They are just R32 GTR Nissan Sumitomo callipers. Same as R33 GTSt also. They are alloy not cast like the WRX callipers. The pad itself is basically the same as the WRX pad(and many other sumitomo callipers). The calliper used to have NISSAN written on it but it was removed for clearance.

They should fit under any WRX 17" wheel. There is a 6 mm spacer behind the wheel.

I have to mount up the rears as well but have yet to decide on a rotor size.

[Az]

only underbraked on one side.

I'm concerned it may pull to the left under heavy braking.

wagon looks sweet. the more green turbo gen2's the better.

[DJB]

Hi Al,
How is this brake setup coming along Al?
What rotors did you decide on in the end?

Darryl

[Al]

Gotta buy some rotors, Az piched the other set.
They are 01-04 STi 325mm x 32mm rotors.

edit - wrong rotor size.

[NRGIZE]

looking good al :tu looks stock also better to be with that setup hehehe... so have u got it started yet or? whats left to do & how long till your on the road :D

[Al]

I'm having a bit of trouble getting time to prep the engine and make the turbo up pipes.
Sucks to be old, never any time to do shid.

[DJB]

']Gotta buy some rotors, Az piched the other set.
They are 01-04 STi 225mm x 32mm rotors.
225mm? was that meant to be 325mm?

edit, now fixed

Darryl

[SteveJ]

']I'm having a bit of trouble getting time to prep the engine and make the turbo up pipes.
Sucks to be old, never any time to do shid.

Kids will do that to you Al, thankfully there are some up sides to that also.
:)

You seem to have alot of paying customers lately which is great for you & Stints, well done!

[SubbyRS]

^^^ it's a double edged sword Steve......Stints is still working fulltime "for the man" so he's trying to do TWO fulltime jobs.....madness!! :D

[Jarrod]

^^^ it's a double edged sword Steve......Stints is still working fulltime "for the man" so he's trying to do TWO fulltime jobs.....madness!! :D

Pah! Time with the wife and kids, who needs that? :P :D

[SteveJ]

Pah! Time with the wife and kids, who needs that? :P :D

Can't wait for you to have kids Jarrod.
:D

[Jarrod]

Can't wait for you to have kids Jarrod.
:D

It's not going to happen. Just ask my mrs.

[Webby]

It's not going to happen. Just ask my mrs.
Funny.....that's what Bron and I said 8 years ago!

[SubbyRS]

*edited for fear of incurring the wrath of god*