GenII FMIC install

[Billsy]

i bought it almost 2 years ago and it sat in the shed...so i figured id make use of it....
http://i131.photobucket.com/albums/p313/billsyhtf/PB100008.jpg
http://i131.photobucket.com/albums/p313/billsyhtf/FMIC.jpg

Ive still got the pipework to do, intercooler valve mod and and the finishing touches, hopefully a bar respray.
The bar and lights are just sitting there... then ill post up more pics.

[Az]

nice.

gen2 is hot. I want one.

[mitch]

very nice billsy

[NRGIZE]

yea very nice i think i'm starting to like gen2's :) nice work!!!

[B-rad]

HAHA thats a nice fit. is yours sitting up on the bottom rad support? or below it? i just mounted my core last night to on my wags too billsy... only mine is single turbo now so its not quite so hard to fit the fmic.

question for you what did you do with your power steering cooler lines? or dont gtb have them? they are smack bang in the way under my drivers side headlgiht...

heres my core
http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c202/bradisalegend/FMICcore.jpg

[Deaks]

Heres what mine used to look like, as you can see the foggies lived to fight another day. Dang i miss that car.

http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a279/LDeaks/Cars/Picture023.jpg

http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a279/LDeaks/Cars/Picture022.jpg

[gradg]

All these cars are looking like christuffas RS when his FMIC was done :P

No frontbar FTW!

Billsy that looks hot. nice work.

[Billsy]

did you think wbout where your end tanks are pointing??? youve got alot of grinding to do on that reo bracket...

mines mounted a bit higher and its infront and sits just slightly below the rad bottom support.

power steer cooler is in a box of junk thats not going back on. im going to bend some copper pipe and run a new one behind the cooler, its easier than trying to bend the one thats there to fit and still clear where the silicon bends will go

ive also cut the upper part of the bar (which cant be seen) so i can box the core so 100% of the air that goes in the mouth of the bar goes through the cooler which is about 99% open to airflow

[Adrian]

nice fit billsy. look forward to seeing the pipework, keep it short and neat with minimal angles to get the most outta here. what size piping are you going for?

[B-rad]

yeha i have already done alot of grinding, its not that hard... the core now seems to fit very well. there will be plenty of room for the pipework, and i still have my power steering cooler too...

billsy another question, how did you mod your front bar, cos where my number plate mounts, if i cut it out it will look so dodge, yours looks modded cos i have a big section for my number plate.

[Jarrod|crzyrs|]

just please dont cut the front bar to expose more of the core. it looks hot that way it is.

[paddo]

Hack The Bar!!! Hack The Bar!!

[hendo]

Looks pretty good Bills, now you just have to sort out the piping nightmare.


billsy another question, how did you mod your front bar, cos where my number plate mounts, if i cut it out it will look so dodge, yours looks modded cos i have a big section for my number plate.Millsy's on his way to a B&S ball tonight (YEEEEHAAAAAA!!!!) so he won't answer this.

His bar was modded before he got the car. The centre section has been cut out and the gaps plastic welded, then the bar has been re-sprayed.

[B-rad]

oh ok cheers for that hendo, i took paddo's advice and hacked it out anyway lol. i left a bit to mount my numberplate. looks ok.....
http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c202/bradisalegend/fmicwithbumper.jpg

[tomee]

damn i love the face of gen 2's


should of gotten myself one

[granca69]

wat size coolers are you guys using, are they 600 cause i didnt think a 600 would fit the bar so well. looks like subaru planned gen 2's to be converted.

[B-rad]

yeah they are the standard 600x300x76 coolers. and they fit very well with the weapon of choice ( grinder) and half hour of cutting etc. i got mine for 145 delivered, for that price you cant go wrong. mine has 2.5"inlets aswell as it suits better as im using 2.5 inch piping, the 3 inch outlets would be alot harder to get the piping under the headlighs as it is tight when you use an rx bar support. gx bar support is another story

[Marty]

nice one bills... very keen to see how you run the piping as i would love to do this mod!! (Without having to throw on a vf34!)

[Billsy]

im planning on running 2" hot side and 2 1/2 cold side.
my cooler has 3" inlets as i got it ages ago before there were many avail with 2.5

piping should be easy on the drivers side but im expecting a bit of fiddling on the passengers side. i havent decided which side to make the hot/cold side yet, that depends on how my IC valve thingo turns out and if i need to rotate a turbo.

[TassieTT]

The secondary side stays pretty cool most of the time because it doesn't get used as much so I would run the pipe down the passenger side and back up the drivers.

When I thought about going FM I was going to take the end tank off the back of the intercooler and weld a plate on the face and then open one of the ends and put an outlet section on there.

It would keep the IC valve in place and also allow the pipe coming back to the throttle body to have plenty of space.

[smoov]

bit of a TT n00b question here, apologies.... would a larger FMIC increase lag/VOD, vs TMIC?

they sure as hell look hawt with them on though!

[Billsy]

The secondary side stays pretty cool most of the time because it doesn't get used as much so I would run the pipe down the passenger side and back up the drivers.

When I thought about going FM I was going to take the end tank off the back of the intercooler and weld a plate on the face and then open one of the ends and put an outlet section on there.

It would keep the IC valve in place and also allow the pipe coming back to the throttle body to have plenty of space.

thats probably the route ill take with the piping as it will be easier to fit 2" down the pass side.

one of my aims is to NOT use the stock changeover valve or the crappy plastic 90degree bends... so im making my own :D
space will have to be used wisely though. and ive seen some UGLY adaptations to the valve setup so theres much more reasons to ditch it than to keep it.

[Billsy]

bit of a TT n00b question here, apologies.... would a larger FMIC increase lag/VOD, vs TMIC?

they sure as hell look hawt with them on though!

as with all cars the lag will be increased somewhat, but how much???? no idea yet.
as for vod i think it might smooth it out a little so less drop in pressure but tiny bit longer to come back up to full boost.

ill know in a few weeks..

[TassieTT]

one of my aims is to NOT use the stock changeover valve or the crappy plastic 90degree bends... so im making my own :D

You could get a butterfly out of a 2" throttle body and utilise the actuator from the existing set-up

[Billsy]

the actuators in the same scrap heap as the valve :D

the less mechanical bits the better IMO.
it will be air pressure operated

[B-rad]

air pressure actuated? please explain how you will do this. or how you plan to do this?

[Billsy]

kind of a big one way valve type arrangement. its only on paper atm so ill report back how it goes once its in.

[TassieTT]

oooooh - I just had an idea which could do away with more of the crap.

If you had the valve operated by positive pressure to open at a PSI equal to the primary you could get rid of the pressure equalisation solenoid.

Run an EBC linked to both the primary wastegate and one to operate the valve. They should then operate at the same time

I assume a EBC only let pressure through at the set PSI

[Billsy]

you just confused me with that ebc bit?

if you unplug the pressure equalisation solenoid youd get a code. so it needs to stay to keep the ecu happy unless it gets replaced by a resistor
my wastegate will be set to somewhere round 18-20psi and the 2ndary changeover valve is getting a makeover and will become the primarys wastegate at around 1 bar.

[markmcrs]

I was at Billsy's last night, whilst he was at work modifying his TT

Here's a few pics...
http://www.magicmakers.com/retail/costumes/madscientist.jpg

http://ghc.ctc.edu/~rwenke/Annie/Mad%20Scientist%20in%20his%20lab.jpg
http://www.hpsymphony.org/album/fall2005/Halloween/mad_scientist1.jpg

[Marty]

keep getting all excited at the notifications cause of all the useful info in this thread....

how wrong was i....



FTW!!!!!!!! :rolleyes:

[Al]

Muuuuhaahaahaahaa, it's aliiive. And the VOD is gone.

http://www.stkp.com/POSER/GALLERY/madscientist.jpg

[Marty]

you mean one of these is dead?

http://members.iinet.net.au/~martinm/cars/gtb/vod.jpg

[LegacyGT]

nice work!!!


can someone design a kit? its about time there was a non jap kit available

[Marty]

bills, if you have the time i'm sure theres a few of us out here that would kill for a pre-fab or at least design of the pipes...

[Billsy]

after dec15 ive got a month off between jobs so i can get it copied for anyone wanting to follow the trend.

will have all the bugs (if any) sorted by then. and a before and after comparison as im still using the 2L motor unfortunately.

[TassieTT]

What I was talking about with the EBC is if it is set to say 15psi, you could design it so that it controls the wastegate on the primary and opens a valve to let the pressure built up by the secondary turbo. I assume an EBC withholds any pressure to the wastegate until the desired level.

You could also use one of those pressure relief valves that one of the other guys was talking about using on his b4 for the boost control.

Set it so it opens at the same pressure as the wastegate or the EBC or even have so it lets the secondary build up a slightly higher pressure.

[Marty]

after dec15 ive got a month off between jobs so i can get it copied for anyone wanting to follow the trend.

sounds good, keep us posted...

anything to simplify the gear in the engine bay and make the car faster :D

[Mickey]

The jap kits are too badly prices now though.

I can get the blitz LM Kit for the TT's for $1500 delivered.
Which I though was a good price.

[LegacyGT]

The jap kits are too badly prices now though.

I can get the blitz LM Kit for the TT's for $1500 delivered.
Which I though was a good price.


delivered? no way!

anyway i have my china spec intercooler in the store room waiting.

[Marty]

not a bad price, got pics?

[Mickey]

No pics
but here is a link

http://www.nengun.com/catalogue/product/31

Scroll down and there is a price for the BH5 and BE5 Legacy's
I have emailed and confrimed its for will fit.
I just need to save the coin now!

[Billsy]

the thing is with those kits, what do you get?

are they from Turbos to inlet or do they start after the Intercooler valve?
how long is the pipe and does any of the factory options like abs ect bet in the way..

i would want much more information before handing over the coin

[Mickey]

From the info I have read its complete with everything.

Either way when I have the coin I will get one and see how it goes.

[Billsy]

UPDATE.

Finished the dummy pipes tonight, so its off to the fabricator for the man with the TIG welder :wink:

Hot side goes down the passenger side and the pipe snakes its way through the gaps and in between the aircon reciever/drier (which got a little twist out the way) and the radiator.
cold pipe goes past the abs motor (which i moved about 1 1/2 inches towards the guard with a new bracket and very minor bending of the lines) then through the gap between the controll box and the huge changeover diaphram and around to the intake.

[Marty]

nice work bills! if you got any pics would love to see them!

cooler mounted with in and outs on bottom or top?

[Billsy]

its upside down so the tanks are at the top and pipes go through under the headlights.