sad day for CRZYRS

[Jarrod|crzyrs|]

as the title says its a sad day.

1.30am get a phone call while at my mates, one of our old work mates has written off his car around the corner. we attend and he is unhurt. but visibly shaken.

at 1.45pm a toyota camry crashes into the left rear door of CRZYRS. 30cm more forward and the car would be a write off as well.

[RSTurbo]

pics?

[mitch]

that's no good j! Especially since you just finished rebuilding the engine :(

[89rsturbo]

man that suck !!

[rs guy]

sorry to here this man :(

[anark1]

shite i know the feeling my car was a couple of hundres buck of repairs worth of being called write off.

i get her back on fri, but the lack of a car has been a biatch

[SHEPPO3930]

i know whats it like, sucks big time aye! at least its not a write off and be thankfull u're ok

[Jarrod|crzyrs|]

i know whats it like, sucks big time aye! at least its not a write off and be thankfull u're ok

thanks mate good to see someone is thinking of me instead of the car.

[RSTurbo]

its obvious you're ok if your posting a few hours after it happened, but its good to know....

P I C S !!!!!!!!!!

[Legacy555]

Good to see ur alright .hope ur not to upset with the car being badly bang up

[Jarrod|crzyrs|]

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[Legacy555]

U think they'll write that off?.dosent look that bad

[mitch]

that's just a flesh wound!

[RedLeone]

That’s a new door and a new rear 1/4 panel.
Let me put it into protective. My Leone was smashed from the back, needed new bumper ($1000) new beaver panel (no sh** that’s what it’s called, it’s the panel between the lights, and a new 1/4 panel and a brand new (from Japan) rear light, and the Leone was not a write off. The car was only insured for $4000 then so there is no way it’s a write off.

BTW it's good to hear your ok

[Jarrod|crzyrs|]

U think they'll write that off?.dosent look that bad

never said it was a right off. if it had been 30cm more forward the B pillar would have been hit then it would be a right off.


The car was only insured for $4000 then so there is no way it’s a write off.

BTW it's good to hear your ok

i know its not a right off.

[RSTurbo]

theres no way they will replace that 1/4 panel. way too much work for a minor scrape.
knowing bodyshops these days they will probly wanna replace that door, especially if its an insurance job, but really it shouldnt be replaced. its only superficial, and could be repaired without too many dramas.

i say damage bill will be $1500-2000.

[needaRSS]

as the title says its a sad day.

1.30am get a phone call while at my mates, one of our old work mates has written off his car around the corner. we attend and he is unhurt. but visibly shaken.

at 1.45pm a toyota camry crashes into the left rear door of CRZYRS. 30cm more forward and the car would be a write off as well.

I doubt that 30cm more would have been a write of. Glad you are ok mate. :tu

[NRGIZE]

farout unlucky man good to hear u guys come out ok!!!

[B-rad]

nah youll be right, theres no way they will replace the rear qtr panel, i could get those dents out haha. and as for the dents in the door, nothing Mr. DINGO couldnt get rid of. bit of a cut n polish, then a buff and she;ll be as good as new.

jokes, it could have been alto worse your very lucky!!

[tomee]

that'll buff right out...

[SHEPPO3930]

ah thats nothin dude! she'll be right, nothing a new door, bit of pannel beating and some paint cant fix.

[djc]

Is the rear wheel scrapped as well..?? It looks as though it is. :(

Bad luck there champ, but atleast your ok.

[smoov]

make sure there isn't any further chassis/mechanical/drivetrain damage with that wheel being hit. the panels aren't a concern, but those wheel scratches make me suspicious.

hope it all works out for you. I can empathize your frustrations, as I had a little car I liked a lot, that was written off in a similar circumstance.

cheers

alex

[BoostWagon]

That bites the big one mate :(

Glad you were in the path of the car when it hit.. count ya blessings, it could have been alot worste


Chin up :) CRZYRS will be back

[Jarrod|crzyrs|]

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[jm3132]

how did it happen mate? paint us a picture.
whos fault? his i gather?

[RSdan]

sucks man, hope can get fixed up soon! glad no one was hurt.

[Jarrod|crzyrs|]

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[Dyls]

from what i can work out, you failed to give way?
left before right

[paddo]

so.. he was turning left, and you were turning right.. so he had right of way, and he hit your car as you were turning right, and he was turning left...?

is that right?..?

Im trying to work it out, but it seems you were in the wrong from what you've said there.

[yods]

Yeah, I'd start editing your posts now if you haven't got the insurance cheque. Person turning left has right of way and can choose any of the available lanes to turn into. Only chance you might have is if both lights went red, then he should wait at the line and you should make your turn.

[jm3132]

yes but when there are two or more lanes, both turn at the same time. when i went for my licence's, left lane has to turn into the closest left lane, right into the closest right lane. SO, if there are two or more lanes, both sides may turn at the same time, so in fact its actually the Camrys fault as he turned into the wrong lane.

[Jarrod|crzyrs|]

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[nick e[v]ans]

Dodgy P'shop ftw!!! Sorry if my drawing isn't up to scratch.

http://img165.imageshack.us/img165/7885/crzydownax0.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

[yods]

yes but when there are two or more lanes, both turn at the same time. when i went for my licence's, left lane has to turn into the closest left lane, right into the closest right lane. SO, if there are two or more lanes, both sides may turn at the same time, so in fact its actually the Camrys fault as he turned into the wrong lane.

I'm pretty sure that's not right. I don't think cars legally are allowed to turn like that at the same time. Plenty of people do it thought. I'm also pretty sure you can choose which lane when turning left to account for situations where you need to make a right turn immediately after.

[Jarrod|crzyrs|]

ans']Dodgy P'shop ftw!!! Sorry if my drawing isn't up to scratch.

http://img165.imageshack.us/img165/7885/crzydownax0.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

thats pretty much it...love the KAPOW CRZY DOWN

[thomas]

so.. he was turning left, and you were turning right.. so he had right of way, and he hit your car as you were turning right, and he was turning left...?

is that right?..?

Im trying to work it out, but it seems you were in the wrong from what you've said there.

Does EVERY thread this dude start turn into a shitfight, hehehehehe. Paddo, its a combination of a whole lot of things and i think bad english is probably a contributor.

[evil_rex]

ahh spewin mate, hope u can get her fixed and looking her best soon

[Jarrod|crzyrs|]

ahh spewin mate, hope u can get her fixed and looking her best soon

i think my mates were more upset that my 'nice' paint was now 'fugged' than i was. but then again thats just my attitude. you take what life gives you and you give back.

[nick e[v]ans]

Just to spur on the argument a little more, i was told by my driving instructor (who i didn't really trust that much) that you could only move into any of the three lanes if you were the only vehicle entering at the time, otherwise you had to keep to the left lane. But i'm not sure whether or not you can turn at the same time. I do it all the time anyway though.

[SHEPPO3930]

it seems that if you turned as u say u did, going by the awesome diagram, and u went into the right most lane, and he turned how u said, and didnt go into the most left lane, then he is in the wrong. you had completed your crossing of the intersection and were a vehicle in the right lane, as far as i am concerned, he merged into you!

being right is only the 1/2 of it, you have to proove it wasnt your fault.

[Mickey]

Sorry to hear about your ride.

But I think you might get screwed by the insurance company, esp if he fights you for it.

You should have given way.

Good luck either way!

[Jarrod|crzyrs|]

Sorry to hear about your ride.

But I think you might get screwed by the insurance company, esp if he fights you for it.

You should have given way.

Good luck either way!

P PLATES = i get screwed 99.9% of the time.

[paddo]

p plates + turbo = ass raping

[Jarrod|crzyrs|]

p plates + turbo = ass raping

so TRUE!

another funny fact is the fact the guy didnt even know what road he was turning onto :P

and tonight i went to the local pool hall. as i got out of my car 3 blokes came up to me and asked 'if i had changed my engine'. as 'it sounded strange for the model car'. so the RS is still getting plenty of attention. :D

[paddo]

haha... local pool hall.. where there roller girls there? and did the 3 blokes look like they had just stepped out of 'grease lightning' ..?? haha..
not knocking pool halls.. I love pool... but i get this image of 3 blokes with hair cuts like elvis asking about a car in a carpark.. gives me a warm tingly feeling inside.

[SHEPPO3930]

crzyrs- i think what the pool hall boys ment was they havent heard a liberty of that shape sound like that.. cause they probably dont know the RS existed. i have a wrx motor in my car and it sounds the same as last week with the RS motor.. so i doubt those "experts" could tell your motor had a fresh rebuild and some different heads.

[SIKRST]

i cant see anything wrong with that

ha ha

good luck mate...

[Rallyeee]

As far as who's in the wrong law wise it's a tough one. There are some weird laws. Regardless of which one is legally right the other guy is a dickhead. I hate people who pull across all the lanes like that when other people are around. They're just as bad as people who don't understand round-a-bouts. Though this won't help your case. The first proper drive I had of my Liberty after the conversion I nearly got crashed into at a dual lane raound-a-bout and she looked at me with her hands in the air like I was in the wrong GGGAAARRHHH!!!

[RSweapon]

holy crap.. i just read this. some serious bad luck there mate. i hate it when people don't know the road rules nor can control their car sufficiently and end up causing an accident!!

i spose u may have had other things on yr mind these last few days than sending certain packages...

good luck with the insurance and getting her back on road asap ;)

[Jarrod|crzyrs|]

i have a wrx motor in my car and it sounds the same as last week with the RS motor.. so i doubt those "experts" could tell your motor had a fresh rebuild and some different heads.

but without the tick tick tick now ha dave :D

i got a quote and without parts (as it was too late to call) labour costs are around $900-1000. but that is just one quote so far.

[Jarrod|crzyrs|]

i have had two quotes done on the car now, as i only had one done previously and the difference was outstanding.

first quote was for $1200
second quote was $2200 :eek:

anyhow an update.
my insurance company (just car) had not even sent any details i had given them to the other cars insurance company (aami). so every time i called just car they said "we are waiting for aami to contact us". 6 weeks these guys cant figure out whats going on. wtf do i pay insurance for???

i have told just car not to send out the renewal notice they cant get f( )cked, i am switching to shannons. :tu

[dtrally]

What usually happens in situations where blame is not immediately obvious is the insurance treat each claimant as "at fault" which means you both never see your excess back. I was stationary at traffic lights once in a work ute, when a truck clipped the rear corner of the tray while trying to squeeze into a right turn lane. (he was also on the phone :mad: ) Had to pay the excess to get the claim moving with the promise that it would be refunded after the counter claim is finalised. Guess what, 2 years later and still trying to get it back. :mad:

[Jarrod|crzyrs|]

Had to pay the excess to get the claim moving with the promise that it would be refunded after the counter claim is finalised. Guess what, 2 years later and still trying to get it back. :mad:

YES!! thats exactly what is happening here. 2 days after the accident they asked for $1300 in excess. otherwise they would not look at anything. also with the promise i get it back if found not to be at fault. well they will be giving it back no matter what i'll be making sure of the that!

[dtrally]

Yeah, I totally sympatise with you. I have a hatred for insurance companies that has built up over the years. They will screw you in any way they can. What happens is they "apportion blame" which means he maybe 80% at fault you 20% but you both cop the pineapple!!

[SubbyRS]

Ba$tards!! as if they don't make enough money from premiums.....the insurance game is money for Jam.....

[Jarrod|crzyrs|]

probably the most ironic thing is my brother, mother and father all have premiums with AAMI. just car is underwritten by AAMI, dad had a crash and his car is being fixed 2 weeks after it happened.

[Graeme]

What usually happens in situations where blame is not immediately obvious is the insurance treat each claimant as "at fault" which means you both never see your excess back. I was stationary at traffic lights once in a work ute, when a truck clipped the rear corner of the tray while trying to squeeze into a right turn lane. (he was also on the phone :mad: ) Had to pay the excess to get the claim moving with the promise that it would be refunded after the counter claim is finalised. Guess what, 2 years later and still trying to get it back. :mad:

thats gay, if you had his details you shouldn't have had to pay, 3rd party claim, did this when some tool in a commywhore ran into the back of me, got his details got quotes and car assesed and didn't pay nothing.

[Rimmer]

They (insurance companies) can't be all bad. My brother wrote off his Calais and yes it was mostly his fault by his own definition and RACV could not have been better. Accident Sunday, assessed Monday after removing all the goodies and OK'D on the spot, cheque Thursday and new car Friday. Agreed value less $800 excess and the best thing was they gave him even a better deal on his new car. Twice the agreed value of the old car and they knew about it being lowered, mags etc and it only went up about $80 give or take 10. That's why I have full comp with them.

[Jarrod|crzyrs|]

thats gay, if you had his details you shouldn't have had to pay, 3rd party claim, did this when some tool in a commywhore ran into the back of me, got his details got quotes and car assesed and didn't pay nothing.

in your situation its a clear case of other commonwhore was in the wrong. in my case its no so clear as to who is at fault. but i nor anyone i know ever heard of paying the excess before anyone is deemed to have been at fault.

[dtrally]

They (insurance companies) can't be all bad. My brother wrote off his Calais and yes it was mostly his fault by his own definition and RACV could not have been better.

That's what annoys me about insurance companys, Drivers who benefit from their own stupidity, while drivers like me who's never had an at fault claim have premiums that go up 20% every year because I drive a "high risk" car. I feel like telling them it's the same high risk car I bought brand new 10 years ago, nothings changed exept the premium's doubled while the value's halved :mad:

[Graeme]

That's what annoys me about insurance companys, Drivers who benefit from their own stupidity, while drivers like me who's never had an at fault claim have premiums that go up 20% every year because I drive a "high risk" car. I feel like telling them it's the same high risk car I bought brand new 10 years ago, nothings changed exept the premium's doubled while the value's halved :mad:

it's all because the value has halved which makes it affordable to people who simply can't drive. To make it worse they modify it and then crash it, so statistics tell the insurance company that the car is a higher risk for the to insure.

I went through this in 2000 when i was looking for a new car, a 94 WRX was going to cost 2.5 times in insurance premiums than buying a brand new MY00...

[Jarrod|crzyrs|]

another thing i hate is this fact. say if i own a business, i charge XXX amount for a female customer and only XX for a male thats considered sexist.

yet on excess's insurance companies can get away with doing exactlty that.

[Jarrod]

another thing i hate is this fact. say if i own a business, i charge XXX amount for a female customer and only XX for a male thats considered sexist.

yet on excess's insurance companies can get away with doing exactlty that.

Unfortunately they have proof and statistics that it's different from male to female, so that allows them to make the distinction. What they haven't let on is that females of 18- 25 are now pretty much on equal grounds as males, but they just don't want to give up the extra $100 odd from each bloke in that age group.

I'll be pleased to leave the under 25 age group come March.

No one has a problem when it's skewed towards females, it's only when it's the other way round the feminists jump and wail.

[Jarrod|crzyrs|]

What they haven't let on is that females of 18- 25 are now pretty much on equal grounds as males, but they just don't want to give up the extra $100 odd from each bloke in that age group.

No one has a problem when it's skewed towards females, it's only when it's the other way round the feminists jump and wail.

my old man makes a 2 1/2 hour trip to the country every friday night and he tells me that on average he see's around 4 females per trip with P plates, talking on the phone or sending txt messages.

so i do agree that males are equal in the grounds of being just a safer drivers as females.

[dtrally]

so i do agree that males are equal in the grounds of being just a safer drivers as females.

As far as insurance companys are concerned they only consider the number of claims made per year, not per Km travelled. So if female drivers cover 1/2 the Km of males but make slightly less claims per year, they are considered safer. Think about how often you see a Male and Female in a car and the Female is driving, not as often as the other way. Therefore it's reasonable that more claims are made by males. This stimulates the media into crowing about females being better drivers, without actually considering who covers the most Km.

[Jarrod|crzyrs|]

i still fail to see how the fact males drive more therefore, more likely to have an accident and make a claim insurance companies can charge more than females. still seems pretty sexist to me. and in this day every time males get treated better the opposite sex jumps up and down!

[dtrally]

i still fail to see how the fact males drive more therefore, more likely to have an accident and make a claim insurance companies can charge more than females. still seems pretty sexist to me. and in this day every time males get treated better the opposite sex jumps up and down!

Same way they discriminate on age as well. If you're over 55 you pay less. If your under 25 you pay more. It's the risk they measure not how well you drive. Over 55's travel less distance, not in a hurry, maintain car better etc. Insurance don't care that when they do drive they can't see through their cataracts :wink: :rolleyes:

[Jarrod|crzyrs|]

Insurance don't care that when they do drive they can't see through their cataracts :wink: :rolleyes:

and stick to the right hand lane 99.999999999% of the time!